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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Re: CWB 2 and 3 – Yes, that’s exactly what it means. CWB 3.9 will only be able to work with CWB 3.9 indexes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My hope is to add a conversion tool to 3.9, however, if it is not too complex to do so. (Shouldn’t be – all it will involve is piping cwb-decode3.5 into cwb-encode3.9).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As for NoSkE – this is the first I’ve heard that you even
<i>could</i> use corpora compiled by Manatee with CWB! So I really have no clue there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In general, everyone should expect 3.9 to break more or less everything.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There will be a stable branch 3.5 which we will maintain for some years, if you don’t want to upgrade to 3.9. I expect it will be quite a while until the bugs
are shaken out of 3.9 enough that we become confident enough to release it as 4.0!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This will be a massive pain. However, the v2/3 binary format is now one of the main obstacles to us improving CWB in the ways that Stefan & I have identified
as priorities. So the pain is necessary in the long run…. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Andrew.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it [mailto:cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Yannick Versley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 30 January 2015 20:00<br>
<b>To:</b> Open source development of the Corpus WorkBench<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWB] A formal specification of CQL?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Does this mean that the binary corpus files made with CWB 2.x through 3.2 (and possibly<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">any corpora compiled with the NoSke tools) will stop working with CQP 3.9/4?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yannick<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Hardie, Andrew <<a href="mailto:a.hardie@lancaster.ac.uk" target="_blank">a.hardie@lancaster.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I see! That ticket is now here (due to sourceforge changing the tracker software):<br>
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<a href="http://sourceforge.net/p/cwb/feature-requests/46/" target="_blank">http://sourceforge.net/p/cwb/feature-requests/46/</a><br>
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Actually, I'm going to close it as WONTFIX: there seems little point in spending a lot of time writing about file formats that we are going to chuck out in versions 3.9 and 4, and I will document the new file formats as I'm in the process of inventing them...<br>
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<span class="hoenzb">Andrew.</span><br>
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PS thanks for that parser state diagram. It confirms what I always suspected, to be frank.<br>
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<span class="im">-----Original Message-----</span><br>
<span class="im">From: <a href="mailto:cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it">cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it">cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it</a>] On Behalf Of Serge Heiden</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sent: 30 January 2015 15:25<br>
To: <a href="mailto:cwb@sslmit.unibo.it">cwb@sslmit.unibo.it</a><br>
Subject: Re: [CWB] A formal specification of CQL?<br>
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Thank you Andrew, I found it: it was the content of a ticket:<br>
<a href="http://devel.sslmit.unibo.it/pipermail/cwb/2012-July/001042.html" target="_blank">http://devel.sslmit.unibo.it/pipermail/cwb/2012-July/001042.html</a><br>
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Best,<br>
Serge<br>
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Le 30/01/2015 16:05, Hardie, Andrew a écrit :<br>
> We generally call it "CQP Syntax" rather than "Corpus Query Language", although lots of people working on other software have gravitated to the latter.<br>
><br>
> The code of the parser is written as a Bison grammar, which *is* thus in effect a formal specification!<br>
><br>
> It's in cqp/parser.y (see also parser.l).<br>
><br>
> See:<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://sourceforge.net/p/cwb/code/HEAD/tree/cwb/trunk/cqp/parser.y" target="_blank">
http://sourceforge.net/p/cwb/code/HEAD/tree/cwb/trunk/cqp/parser.y</a><br>
><br>
> And to search the list, use<br>
><br>
> site:<a href="http://devel.sslmit.unibo.it/pipermail/cwb" target="_blank">devel.sslmit.unibo.it/pipermail/cwb</a><br>
><br>
> in a Google search.<br>
><br>
> best<br>
><br>
> Andrew.<br>
><br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it">cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it">cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it</a>]<br>
> On Behalf Of Serge Heiden<br>
> Sent: 30 January 2015 14:46<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:cwb@sslmit.unibo.it">cwb@sslmit.unibo.it</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [CWB] A formal specification of CQL?<br>
><br>
> Not to my knowledge.<br>
><br>
> There's been a thread on a similar topic before.<br>
> Is there any search engine available to search in all CWB mailing list<br>
> archive at once? (I can't remember when it was).<br>
><br>
> For fun, you can have a look at the network of the CQP parser states<br>
> here:<br>
> <a href="https://groupes.renater.fr/wiki/txm-info/_media/cqpsyntax.dot.jpeg" target="_blank">
https://groupes.renater.fr/wiki/txm-info/_media/cqpsyntax.dot.jpeg</a><br>
><br>
> Serge H.<br>
><br>
> Le 30/01/2015 14:36, Jörg Knappen a écrit :<br>
>> Is there a formal specification of the Corpus Query Language, e.g.,<br>
>> in EBNF format, available?<br>
>><br>
>> --Jörg Knappen<br>
>><br>
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