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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Gabriele, <br>
<br>
there is a web service that will do morphological analysis and
lemmatization for Greek: <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://archimedes.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/arch/doc/xml-rpc.html">http://archimedes.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/arch/doc/xml-rpc.html</a><br>
<br>
However, it does not disambiguate homonyms. One way is to encode
all possibilities in the corpus, that's what I did (for a
different project). That's the only resource I know of. <br>
<br>
I think the problem you saw with the accented characters might be
part of the rendering on your system - here, things looked fine,
and Stefan and Andrew checked that. But thanks for pointing that
out!<br>
<br>
Best, <br>
Ruprecht<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 11.03.2015 um 05:58 schrieb Gabriele Brandolini:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Dear Ruprecht, Andrew and Stefan</p>
<p dir="ltr">I followed your issue about encoding Old Greek texts.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I also would like to cwb encode texts in this
language expecially old texts of the Fathers of the Church. But
I've not yet got a PoS tagger for such a language. We just
planned to work on it to train TreeTagger. But as I know it
isn't ready yet.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Do you, Ruprecht, know if there is any available?</p>
<p dir="ltr">About your list of greek words in your email of 14 31
I noticed that they are mostly uncorrect. As the initial letter
(alfa or eta or epsilon) were dropped out with its accent and
spirit.<br>
I don't know if this has something to do with the encoding error
messages you get.<br>
Just I wanted to point out it, maybe it can be of any help.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Good work and good luck!</p>
<p dir="ltr">Gabriele</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">Il 10/mar/2015 14:31 "Ruprecht von
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<div>Dear List, <br>
so my second problem, this time with Ancient Greek. I
cannot easily reproduce this with a 2-line corpus, because
I don't know where the culprit is. I am posting the CWB
Output instead, maybe this is already enough. <br>
<br>
What I am trying to do: I am trying to align three
documents, one Greek and two Slavic texts, using the
aligVerse structural element. The two Slavic ones align
fine, the Greek gives me the following error: <br>
rvw@rvw-Latitude-E6410:/data/PROIEL$
/opt/CWBUTF8/cwb/utils/cwb-align -r /data/PROIEL/Registry
-S aligVerse -o out.align NTESTAMENT_GR NTESTAMENT_MN
aligVerse<br>
OPENING NTESTAMENT_GR [147613 tokens, 7497
<aligVerse> regions]<br>
OPENING NTESTAMENT_MN [71935 tokens, 7497
<aligVerse> regions]<br>
OPENING prealignment [NTESTAMENT_GR.aligVerse: 7497
regions, NTESTAMENT_MN.aligVerse: 7497 regions]<br>
LEXICON SIZE: 18085 / 10132<br>
FEATURE: character count, weight=1 ... [1]<br>
FEATURE: Shared words, threshold=40.0%, weight=50 ... [0]<br>
FEATURE: 3-grams, weight=3 ... CL: major error, invalid
UTF8 string passed to cl_string_canonical...<br>
CL: major error, invalid UTF8 string passed to
cl_string_canonical...<br>
CL: major error, invalid UTF8 string passed to
cl_string_canonical...<br>
[21952]<br>
FEATURE: 4-grams, weight=4 ... CL: major error, invalid
UTF8 string passed to cl_string_canonical...<br>
CL: major error, invalid UTF8 string passed to
cl_string_canonical...<br>
CL: major error, invalid UTF8 string passed to
cl_string_canonical...<br>
CL: major error, invalid UTF8 string passed to
cl_string_canonical...<br>
[614656]<br>
[636609 features allocated]<br>
[520402 entries in source text feature map]<br>
[246622 entries in target text feature map]<br>
PASS 2: Setting character count weight.<br>
PASS 2: Processing shared words (th=40.0%).<br>
PASS 2: Processing 3-grams.<br>
CL: major error, invalid UTF8 string passed to
cl_string_canonical...<br>
CL: major error, invalid UTF8 string passed to
cl_string_canonical...<br>
PASS 2: Processing 4-grams.<br>
CL: major error, invalid UTF8 string passed to
cl_string_canonical...<br>
CL: major error, invalid UTF8 string passed to
cl_string_canonical...<br>
PASS 2: Creating character counts.<br>
[checking pointers]<br>
ERROR: fcount1[1387]=24
r->w2f1[1388]-r->w2f1[1387]=22 w=``ἥξουσιν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[1388]=50
r->w2f1[1389]-r->w2f1[1388]=52 w=``ἀνακλιθήσονται''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[1783]=24
r->w2f1[1784]-r->w2f1[1783]=22 w=``θάνατον''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[1784]=50
r->w2f1[1785]-r->w2f1[1784]=52 w=``ἐπαναστήσονται''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[3037]=20
r->w2f1[3038]-r->w2f1[3037]=16 w=``δυνατά''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[3039]=48
r->w2f1[3040]-r->w2f1[3039]=52 w=``ἀκολουθήσαντές''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[3784]=20
r->w2f1[3785]-r->w2f1[3784]=18 w=``ἤλθατε''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[3785]=50
r->w2f1[3786]-r->w2f1[3785]=52 w=``ἀποκριθήσονται''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[4459]=32
r->w2f1[4460]-r->w2f1[4459]=30 w=``ἐπιθυμίαι''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[4460]=50
r->w2f1[4461]-r->w2f1[4460]=52 w=``εἰσπορευόμεναι''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[4998]=20
r->w2f1[4999]-r->w2f1[4998]=18 w=``Ἤρξατο''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[4999]=46
r->w2f1[5000]-r->w2f1[4999]=48 w=``ἠκολουθήκαμέν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[5038]=36
r->w2f1[5039]-r->w2f1[5038]=34 w=``ἐγγίζουσιν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[5039]=50
r->w2f1[5040]-r->w2f1[5039]=52 w=``εἰσπορευόμενοι''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[7009]=32
r->w2f1[7010]-r->w2f1[7009]=30 w=``πλουσίους''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[7010]=46
r->w2f1[7011]-r->w2f1[7010]=48 w=``ἀντικαλέσωσίν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[8582]=20
r->w2f1[8583]-r->w2f1[8582]=18 w=``ἐξάγει''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[8583]=50
r->w2f1[8584]-r->w2f1[8583]=52 w=``ἀκολουθήσουσιν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[9942]=20
r->w2f1[9943]-r->w2f1[9942]=24 w=``ἅρματι''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[9943]=56
r->w2f1[9944]-r->w2f1[9943]=52 w=``ἀναγινώσκοντος''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[10119]=48
r->w2f1[10120]-r->w2f1[10119]=44 w=``μεταπέμψασθαί''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[10120]=48
r->w2f1[10121]-r->w2f1[10120]=52
w=``εἰσκαλεσάμενος''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[10553]=28
r->w2f1[10554]-r->w2f1[10553]=24 w=``ἐτάραξαν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[10554]=48
r->w2f1[10555]-r->w2f1[10554]=52
w=``ἀνασκευάζοντες''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[10622]=24
r->w2f1[10623]-r->w2f1[10622]=20 w=``Τρῳάδος''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[10623]=48
r->w2f1[10624]-r->w2f1[10623]=52
w=``εὐθυδρομήσαμεν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[11159]=48
r->w2f1[11160]-r->w2f1[11159]=44 w=``ἀποσπασθέντας''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[11160]=52
r->w2f1[11161]-r->w2f1[11160]=56
w=``εὐθυδρομήσαντες''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[12054]=20
r->w2f1[12055]-r->w2f1[12054]=18 w=``πλάνης''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[12055]=50
r->w2f1[12056]-r->w2f1[12055]=52
w=``ἀπολαμβάνοντες''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[12422]=12
r->w2f1[12423]-r->w2f1[12422]=10 w=``νοός''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[12423]=50
r->w2f1[12424]-r->w2f1[12423]=52
w=``αἰχμαλωτίζοντά''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[14334]=40
r->w2f1[14335]-r->w2f1[14334]=38 w=``ἐπαιρόμενον''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[14335]=54
r->w2f1[14336]-r->w2f1[14335]=56
w=``αἰχμαλωτίζοντες''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[14641]=40
r->w2f1[14642]-r->w2f1[14641]=38 w=``κεκυρωμένην''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[14642]=50
r->w2f1[14643]-r->w2f1[14642]=52
w=``ἐπιδιατάσσεται''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[14878]=32
r->w2f1[14879]-r->w2f1[14878]=34 w=``προέγραψα''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[14879]=54
r->w2f1[14880]-r->w2f1[14879]=52
w=``ἀναγινώσκοντες''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[15698]=36
r->w2f1[15699]-r->w2f1[15698]=34 w=``ἐπιστεύθην''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[15699]=46
r->w2f1[15700]-r->w2f1[15699]=48 w=``ἐνδυναμώσαντί''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[16170]=32
r->w2f1[16171]-r->w2f1[16170]=30 w=``ἀνέξονται''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[16171]=50
r->w2f1[16172]-r->w2f1[16171]=52
w=``ἐπισωρεύσουσιν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[16815]=32
r->w2f1[16816]-r->w2f1[16815]=30 w=``ἐνυβρίσας''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[16816]=50
r->w2f1[16817]-r->w2f1[16816]=52
w=``Ἀναμιμνῄσκεσθε''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[17621]=40
r->w2f1[17622]-r->w2f1[17621]=42 w=``ἀπεσταλμένα''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[17622]=56
r->w2f1[17623]-r->w2f1[17622]=54 w=``εἴκοσι
τέσσαρες''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[17793]=28
r->w2f1[17794]-r->w2f1[17793]=29 w=``μάρτυσίν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[17794]=93
r->w2f1[17795]-r->w2f1[17794]=92 w=``χιλίας
διακοσίας ἑξήκοντα''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[17937]=24
r->w2f1[17938]-r->w2f1[17937]=26 w=``χαλινῶν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[17938]=60
r->w2f1[17939]-r->w2f1[17938]=58 w=``χιλίων
ἑξακοσίων''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[17967]=36
r->w2f1[17968]-r->w2f1[17967]=34 w=``καυματίσαι''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[17968]=50
r->w2f1[17969]-r->w2f1[17968]=52
w=``ἐκαυματίσθησαν''<br>
<br>
<br>
Again, I would be very thankful for help. <br>
<br>
Best!<br>
Ruprecht<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 10.03.2015 um 12:07 schrieb Ruprecht von Waldenfels:<br>
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<div>Hi Andrew,<br>
YES! This does solve the problem. I was thinking this
setting would only concern tokens, not the lemma
attribute, but now I understand that this was a wrong
assumption. Thank you!<br>
I will now look at the other problem - because that, as
it turns out, is unrelated. <br>
Thanks A LOT!<br>
Ruprecht<br>
Am 10.03.2015 um 12:02 schrieb Hardie, Andrew:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Is
the context size measured in characters? If so,
that would explain the problem, since “characters”
= bytes still.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If
changing the context width to a given number of
words fixes the issue, then that is the solution.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
have been working on a patch to fix this, but have
not completed it yet.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Andrew.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ruprecht von Waldenfels<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 10 March 2015 09:54<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cwb@sslmit.unibo.it"
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<b>Subject:</b> [CWB] unicode problems with
Greek and OCS</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear
List,<br>
<br>
I am using CWB 3.4.8 on 64 bit Ubuntu 14.10.<br>
After encoding a text in Old Church Slavonic, I get
invalid UTF-8 character errors; I seem to get them
only in sgml mode (I also get them during alignment
with the Ancient Greek translation source, which
might be a related problem, but I am not sure.)<br>
<br>
In order to pinpoint the problem with the Old Church
Slavonic text, I have reduced the text in question
to two bible verses. The text can be found here: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.parasolcorpus.org/test.txt"
target="_blank">www.parasolcorpus.org/test.txt</a><br>
<br>
I encode the corpus with the following commands:<br>
/opt/CWBUTF8/cwb/utils/cwb-encode -d
Data/ntestament_tt -f test.txt -R
/data/PROIEL/Registry/ntestament_tt -c utf8 -xsB -P
lemma -P id -P alig -P pos -P tag -S aligVerse:0<br>
/opt/CWBUTF8/cwb/utils/cwb-makeall -r
/data/PROIEL/Registry NTESTAMENT_TT<br>
<br>
There is no problem in text mode:<br>
<br>
<img src="cid:part6.01060805.09070608@gmx.net"
height="302" width="653" border="0"><br>
<br>
However, in sgml mode, some lemmas get truncated and
do not contain valid utf8 anymore. For example, the
lemma of "с҃вщаѩи" is such a token. This problem
does NOT appear if I search for this token itself,
it ONLY and consistently appears if I search for a
different token and the problematic token is in the
result set:<br>
<img src="cid:part7.09050408.03090109@gmx.net"
height="397" width="654" border="0"><br>
<br>
To sum up: I get the problem only if I search for a
neighboring token in sgml mode. I don't get it if I
search for the token itself, and I don't get it in
text mode. I have reduced the problem to w 50-token
text, and the problem persists.<br>
<br>
Any help would be greatly appreciated!<br>
Best, <br>
Ruprecht<br>
<br>
<br>
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