<p dir="ltr">Dear Ruprecht, Andrew and Stefan</p>
<p dir="ltr">I followed your issue about encoding Old Greek texts.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I also would like to cwb encode texts in this language expecially old texts of the Fathers of the Church. But I've not yet got a PoS tagger for such a language. We just planned to work on it to train TreeTagger. But as I know it isn't ready yet.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Do you, Ruprecht, know if there is any available?</p>
<p dir="ltr">About your list of greek words in your email of 14 31 I noticed that they are mostly uncorrect. As the initial letter (alfa or eta or epsilon) were dropped out with its accent and spirit.<br>
I don't know if this has something to do with the encoding error messages you get.<br>
Just I wanted to point out it, maybe it can be of any help.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Good work and good luck!</p>
<p dir="ltr">Gabriele</p>
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<div>Dear List, <br>
so my second problem, this time with Ancient Greek. I cannot
easily reproduce this with a 2-line corpus, because I don't know
where the culprit is. I am posting the CWB Output instead, maybe
this is already enough. <br>
<br>
What I am trying to do: I am trying to align three documents, one
Greek and two Slavic texts, using the aligVerse structural
element. The two Slavic ones align fine, the Greek gives me the
following error: <br>
rvw@rvw-Latitude-E6410:/data/PROIEL$
/opt/CWBUTF8/cwb/utils/cwb-align -r /data/PROIEL/Registry -S
aligVerse -o out.align NTESTAMENT_GR NTESTAMENT_MN aligVerse<br>
OPENING NTESTAMENT_GR [147613 tokens, 7497 <aligVerse>
regions]<br>
OPENING NTESTAMENT_MN [71935 tokens, 7497 <aligVerse>
regions]<br>
OPENING prealignment [NTESTAMENT_GR.aligVerse: 7497 regions,
NTESTAMENT_MN.aligVerse: 7497 regions]<br>
LEXICON SIZE: 18085 / 10132<br>
FEATURE: character count, weight=1 ... [1]<br>
FEATURE: Shared words, threshold=40.0%, weight=50 ... [0]<br>
FEATURE: 3-grams, weight=3 ... CL: major error, invalid UTF8
string passed to cl_string_canonical...<br>
CL: major error, invalid UTF8 string passed to
cl_string_canonical...<br>
CL: major error, invalid UTF8 string passed to
cl_string_canonical...<br>
[21952]<br>
FEATURE: 4-grams, weight=4 ... CL: major error, invalid UTF8
string passed to cl_string_canonical...<br>
CL: major error, invalid UTF8 string passed to
cl_string_canonical...<br>
CL: major error, invalid UTF8 string passed to
cl_string_canonical...<br>
CL: major error, invalid UTF8 string passed to
cl_string_canonical...<br>
[614656]<br>
[636609 features allocated]<br>
[520402 entries in source text feature map]<br>
[246622 entries in target text feature map]<br>
PASS 2: Setting character count weight.<br>
PASS 2: Processing shared words (th=40.0%).<br>
PASS 2: Processing 3-grams.<br>
CL: major error, invalid UTF8 string passed to
cl_string_canonical...<br>
CL: major error, invalid UTF8 string passed to
cl_string_canonical...<br>
PASS 2: Processing 4-grams.<br>
CL: major error, invalid UTF8 string passed to
cl_string_canonical...<br>
CL: major error, invalid UTF8 string passed to
cl_string_canonical...<br>
PASS 2: Creating character counts.<br>
[checking pointers]<br>
ERROR: fcount1[1387]=24 r->w2f1[1388]-r->w2f1[1387]=22
w=``ἥξουσιν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[1388]=50 r->w2f1[1389]-r->w2f1[1388]=52
w=``ἀνακλιθήσονται''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[1783]=24 r->w2f1[1784]-r->w2f1[1783]=22
w=``θάνατον''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[1784]=50 r->w2f1[1785]-r->w2f1[1784]=52
w=``ἐπαναστήσονται''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[3037]=20 r->w2f1[3038]-r->w2f1[3037]=16
w=``δυνατά''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[3039]=48 r->w2f1[3040]-r->w2f1[3039]=52
w=``ἀκολουθήσαντές''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[3784]=20 r->w2f1[3785]-r->w2f1[3784]=18
w=``ἤλθατε''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[3785]=50 r->w2f1[3786]-r->w2f1[3785]=52
w=``ἀποκριθήσονται''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[4459]=32 r->w2f1[4460]-r->w2f1[4459]=30
w=``ἐπιθυμίαι''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[4460]=50 r->w2f1[4461]-r->w2f1[4460]=52
w=``εἰσπορευόμεναι''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[4998]=20 r->w2f1[4999]-r->w2f1[4998]=18
w=``Ἤρξατο''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[4999]=46 r->w2f1[5000]-r->w2f1[4999]=48
w=``ἠκολουθήκαμέν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[5038]=36 r->w2f1[5039]-r->w2f1[5038]=34
w=``ἐγγίζουσιν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[5039]=50 r->w2f1[5040]-r->w2f1[5039]=52
w=``εἰσπορευόμενοι''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[7009]=32 r->w2f1[7010]-r->w2f1[7009]=30
w=``πλουσίους''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[7010]=46 r->w2f1[7011]-r->w2f1[7010]=48
w=``ἀντικαλέσωσίν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[8582]=20 r->w2f1[8583]-r->w2f1[8582]=18
w=``ἐξάγει''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[8583]=50 r->w2f1[8584]-r->w2f1[8583]=52
w=``ἀκολουθήσουσιν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[9942]=20 r->w2f1[9943]-r->w2f1[9942]=24
w=``ἅρματι''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[9943]=56 r->w2f1[9944]-r->w2f1[9943]=52
w=``ἀναγινώσκοντος''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[10119]=48 r->w2f1[10120]-r->w2f1[10119]=44
w=``μεταπέμψασθαί''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[10120]=48 r->w2f1[10121]-r->w2f1[10120]=52
w=``εἰσκαλεσάμενος''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[10553]=28 r->w2f1[10554]-r->w2f1[10553]=24
w=``ἐτάραξαν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[10554]=48 r->w2f1[10555]-r->w2f1[10554]=52
w=``ἀνασκευάζοντες''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[10622]=24 r->w2f1[10623]-r->w2f1[10622]=20
w=``Τρῳάδος''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[10623]=48 r->w2f1[10624]-r->w2f1[10623]=52
w=``εὐθυδρομήσαμεν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[11159]=48 r->w2f1[11160]-r->w2f1[11159]=44
w=``ἀποσπασθέντας''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[11160]=52 r->w2f1[11161]-r->w2f1[11160]=56
w=``εὐθυδρομήσαντες''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[12054]=20 r->w2f1[12055]-r->w2f1[12054]=18
w=``πλάνης''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[12055]=50 r->w2f1[12056]-r->w2f1[12055]=52
w=``ἀπολαμβάνοντες''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[12422]=12 r->w2f1[12423]-r->w2f1[12422]=10
w=``νοός''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[12423]=50 r->w2f1[12424]-r->w2f1[12423]=52
w=``αἰχμαλωτίζοντά''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[14334]=40 r->w2f1[14335]-r->w2f1[14334]=38
w=``ἐπαιρόμενον''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[14335]=54 r->w2f1[14336]-r->w2f1[14335]=56
w=``αἰχμαλωτίζοντες''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[14641]=40 r->w2f1[14642]-r->w2f1[14641]=38
w=``κεκυρωμένην''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[14642]=50 r->w2f1[14643]-r->w2f1[14642]=52
w=``ἐπιδιατάσσεται''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[14878]=32 r->w2f1[14879]-r->w2f1[14878]=34
w=``προέγραψα''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[14879]=54 r->w2f1[14880]-r->w2f1[14879]=52
w=``ἀναγινώσκοντες''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[15698]=36 r->w2f1[15699]-r->w2f1[15698]=34
w=``ἐπιστεύθην''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[15699]=46 r->w2f1[15700]-r->w2f1[15699]=48
w=``ἐνδυναμώσαντί''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[16170]=32 r->w2f1[16171]-r->w2f1[16170]=30
w=``ἀνέξονται''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[16171]=50 r->w2f1[16172]-r->w2f1[16171]=52
w=``ἐπισωρεύσουσιν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[16815]=32 r->w2f1[16816]-r->w2f1[16815]=30
w=``ἐνυβρίσας''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[16816]=50 r->w2f1[16817]-r->w2f1[16816]=52
w=``Ἀναμιμνῄσκεσθε''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[17621]=40 r->w2f1[17622]-r->w2f1[17621]=42
w=``ἀπεσταλμένα''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[17622]=56 r->w2f1[17623]-r->w2f1[17622]=54
w=``εἴκοσι τέσσαρες''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[17793]=28 r->w2f1[17794]-r->w2f1[17793]=29
w=``μάρτυσίν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[17794]=93 r->w2f1[17795]-r->w2f1[17794]=92
w=``χιλίας διακοσίας ἑξήκοντα''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[17937]=24 r->w2f1[17938]-r->w2f1[17937]=26
w=``χαλινῶν''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[17938]=60 r->w2f1[17939]-r->w2f1[17938]=58
w=``χιλίων ἑξακοσίων''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[17967]=36 r->w2f1[17968]-r->w2f1[17967]=34
w=``καυματίσαι''<br>
ERROR: fcount1[17968]=50 r->w2f1[17969]-r->w2f1[17968]=52
w=``ἐκαυματίσθησαν''<br>
<br>
<br>
Again, I would be very thankful for help. <br>
<br>
Best!<br>
Ruprecht<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 10.03.2015 um 12:07 schrieb Ruprecht von Waldenfels:<br>
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<div>Hi Andrew,<br>
YES! This does solve the problem. I was thinking this setting
would only concern tokens, not the lemma attribute, but now I
understand that this was a wrong assumption. Thank you!<br>
I will now look at the other problem - because that, as it turns
out, is unrelated. <br>
Thanks A LOT!<br>
Ruprecht<br>
Am 10.03.2015 um 12:02 schrieb Hardie, Andrew:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Is
the context size measured in characters? If so, that would
explain the problem, since “characters” = bytes still.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If
changing the context width to a given number of words
fixes the issue, then that is the solution.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
have been working on a patch to fix this, but have not
completed it yet.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Andrew.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it" target="_blank">cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it</a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ruprecht von Waldenfels<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 10 March 2015 09:54<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cwb@sslmit.unibo.it" target="_blank">cwb@sslmit.unibo.it</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CWB] unicode problems with Greek and
OCS<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear List,<br>
<br>
I am using CWB 3.4.8 on 64 bit Ubuntu 14.10.<br>
After encoding a text in Old Church Slavonic, I get invalid
UTF-8 character errors; I seem to get them only in sgml mode
(I also get them during alignment with the Ancient Greek
translation source, which might be a related problem, but I
am not sure.)<br>
<br>
In order to pinpoint the problem with the Old Church
Slavonic text, I have reduced the text in question to two
bible verses. The text can be found here: <a href="http://www.parasolcorpus.org/test.txt" target="_blank">www.parasolcorpus.org/test.txt</a><br>
<br>
I encode the corpus with the following commands:<br>
/opt/CWBUTF8/cwb/utils/cwb-encode -d Data/ntestament_tt -f
test.txt -R /data/PROIEL/Registry/ntestament_tt -c utf8 -xsB
-P lemma -P id -P alig -P pos -P tag -S aligVerse:0<br>
/opt/CWBUTF8/cwb/utils/cwb-makeall -r /data/PROIEL/Registry
NTESTAMENT_TT<br>
<br>
There is no problem in text mode:<br>
<br>
<img src="cid:part5.04080207.09060300@gmx.net" height="302" width="653" border="0"><br>
<br>
However, in sgml mode, some lemmas get truncated and do not
contain valid utf8 anymore. For example, the lemma of
"с҃вщаѩи" is such a token. This problem does NOT appear if I
search for this token itself, it ONLY and consistently
appears if I search for a different token and the
problematic token is in the result set:<br>
<img src="cid:part6.00010007.00010406@gmx.net" height="397" width="654" border="0"><br>
<br>
To sum up: I get the problem only if I search for a
neighboring token in sgml mode. I don't get it if I search
for the token itself, and I don't get it in text mode. I
have reduced the problem to w 50-token text, and the problem
persists.<br>
<br>
Any help would be greatly appreciated!<br>
Best, <br>
Ruprecht<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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