<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)">
<style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Verdana;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p.MsoAcetate, li.MsoAcetate, div.MsoAcetate
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Balloon Text Char";
margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:8.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";}
span.BalloonTextChar
{mso-style-name:"Balloon Text Char";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Balloon Text";
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-language:EN-GB;}
span.EmailStyle19
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
mso-fareast-language:EN-US;}
@page WordSection1
{size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">That script says it was written by Marco Baroni in 2005. So it is clearly quite a lot of versions out of date. CWB did not handle any charsets other than Latin1
back then, and CQPweb did not exist. You are <i>inevitably</i> going to run into problems attempting to use that script with a current version of CWB.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If Marco is reading this he might be kind enough to point you to a more recent version. Otherwise, I don’t understand why you don’t just use the normal tools
i.e. cwb-encode/cwb-make. That’s why we document them: <a href="http://cwb.sourceforge.net/files/CWB_Encoding_Tutorial/">
http://cwb.sourceforge.net/files/CWB_Encoding_Tutorial/</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">>></span>2- How to install a new corpus from zero, the 2 ways... in CQP and in cqpWeb<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">That’s what the tutorial is for.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">>></span> If the texts are like "word pos lemma" how I fill the fields?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You put the information for “pos” in the first row, and the information for “lemma” in the second row. If a column doesn’t apply, leave it blank. Don’t tick
“feature set”. It’s recommended to specify “pos” as primary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">OR, use the built in annotation template called “POS plus lemma (TreeTagger format)” which covers exactly this configuration of p-attributes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">best<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Andrew.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it [mailto:cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel Renau<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 16 December 2015 20:35<br>
<b>To:</b> Open source development of the Corpus WorkBench<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWB] Accents and codification<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thank you Stefan and Andrew,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I just change this line in the registry file:<o:p></o:p></p>
<div style="margin-left:30.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal">##:: charset = "latin1" # character encoding of corpus data<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">to<o:p></o:p></p>
<div style="margin-left:30.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">##:: charset = "utf8" # character encoding of corpus data<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">and it works well: <a href="http://imgur.com/GvEnB11">
http://imgur.com/GvEnB11</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Like I said days ago, they use this script to encode corpus:
<a href="http://pastebin.com/xTEHaDdm">http://pastebin.com/xTEHaDdm</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">When the script calls the CWB::Encoder don't tell it to use utf8 and the encoder uses Latin1 by default:<o:p></o:p></p>
<div style="margin-left:30.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"> -c <charset> specify corpus character set (instead of the default latin1)<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Now my doubts are...<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">1- Better modify the script to call the encoder with "-c utf8"?<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">2- How to install a new corpus from zero, the 2 ways... in CQP and in cqpWeb<br>
If the texts are like "word pos lemma" how I fill the fields?<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div style="margin-left:30.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://i.imgur.com/NC7ua7n.png">http://i.imgur.com/NC7ua7n.png</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I don't know how to pass the different attributes.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you so much.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">2015-12-16 13:14 GMT+01:00 Hardie, Andrew <<a href="mailto:a.hardie@lancaster.ac.uk" target="_blank">a.hardie@lancaster.ac.uk</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The mess via SSH is because<br>
<br>
- less highlights the numeric representation of bytes it can't represent<br>
- it emits the ESC-[7m control sequence to do this<br>
- ssh is not interpreting this correctly when it comes in the middle of a utf8 sequence<br>
- this may have something to do with how the receiving console is configured<br>
- but the vm terminal does handle the ESC-[7m correctly<br>
- but in either case, the action of less in introducing those highlight codes stops the UTF-8 sequence resolving as it does for the accented characters.<br>
<br>
Daniel: For the browser, something to check is what presentation encoding it is automatically set to when visiting any page on your CQPweb server; this will tell you what charset your HTTP server is emitting in the Content-Type header. It ought to be emitting
UTF-8. (And check your browser has auto-detect encoding switched on, or the equivalent; that's optional in Chrome but I don't know about other browsers).<br>
<br>
CQPweb always tries to set the HTTP Content-Type header to assert utf8 as the charset. It's possible, however, that your server might block this in some way ( I don't know how, but anything's possible I suppose).<br>
<br>
If neither browser nor HTTP server is the culprit, the next most likely explanation may be that you accidentally ticked the "Tick here if the corpus is encoded in Latin1 (iso-8859-1) " box in CQPweb's New Corpus form. If so, then the charset will be declared
as latin1 in the registry file (instead of utf8 which is what it should be).<br>
<br>
If you did this, then CQPweb will re-code the data from (what it thinks is) latin1 to utf8 every time. If the underlying data is really UTF-8, that re-coding would produce the effect you are seeing.<br>
<br>
best<br>
<span style="color:#888888"><br>
Andrew.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it" target="_blank">cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it" target="_blank">cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it</a>] On Behalf Of Stefan Evert<br>
Sent: 16 December 2015 09:02<br>
To: CWBdev Mailing List<br>
Subject: Re: [CWB] Accents and codification<br>
<br>
<br>
> On 16 Dec 2015, at 01:28, Daniel Renau <<a href="mailto:alphak87@gmail.com" target="_blank">alphak87@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> There's a way to solve this problem with accents and apostrophe?<br>
><br>
> Pic related: <a href="http://i.imgur.com/OAVDzuG.png" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/OAVDzuG.png</a><br>
><br>
> At cqp via command line, the accents show OK (ssh connection or local terminal)<br>
> At cqpWEB the accents are not displayed correctly.<br>
> The apostrophe -> ' <- isn't shown properly anywhere, it shows <80><99><br>
> At UTF8 table is named like "RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK"<br>
<br>
After taking a very close look at the screenshot, it would appear that your corpus is mostly encoded in UTF-8, but you have set CQPweb and/or your browser to interpret it as latin1. If you change these settings to be consistent with your actual corpus encoding,
the text should display fine.<br>
<br>
The encoding of RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION mark might actually be broken in your input data, since it appears as a sequence of three bytes in your VM terminal and especially given the absolute mess of characters (and control codes??) showing up via ssh.<br>
<br>
Did "cwb-encode -c utf8" actually accept this input as well-formed UTF-8?<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Stefan<br>
<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
CWB mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:CWB@sslmit.unibo.it" target="_blank">CWB@sslmit.unibo.it</a><br>
<a href="http://devel.sslmit.unibo.it/mailman/listinfo/cwb" target="_blank">http://devel.sslmit.unibo.it/mailman/listinfo/cwb</a><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
CWB mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:CWB@sslmit.unibo.it" target="_blank">CWB@sslmit.unibo.it</a><br>
<a href="http://devel.sslmit.unibo.it/mailman/listinfo/cwb" target="_blank">http://devel.sslmit.unibo.it/mailman/listinfo/cwb</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br clear="all">
<br>
-- <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Un saludo, Dani.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>