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Hi Ruprecht,<br>
ParaVoz v.2 seems to be exactly what we need.<br>
We will then take care of producing aligned, "lemmatized", sentence
tokenized corpora (one file for per language) and we will give a try
to v.2 of ParaVoz as per you suggestion.<br>
We already have a Linux machine running CWB and CQPweb so it
shouldn't be a big deal to go for it.<br>
Thank you for your kind help, Philippe<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/11/2016 06:44 PM, Ruprecht von
Waldenfels wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi, <br>
the ParaVoz2 interface won't help you with getting the corpus
aligned and such, but with an aligned corpus, it should be
trivial to set up a working interface on a LAMP server, and
probably also a windows server - it just needs CWB, php and
javascript. <br>
There are two versions: one is for the case that each document
is a separate corpus (useful if you have many languages or
multiple translations of the same texts), the second assumes all
the texts of each language are in one file, respectively.<br>
Here are the URLs: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://bitbucket.org/rvwfels/paravoz">https://bitbucket.org/rvwfels/paravoz</a>
and <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://bitbucket.org/rvwfels/paravoz2">https://bitbucket.org/rvwfels/paravoz2</a><br>
Please write to me in case of any questions, <br>
best, <br>
Ruprecht<br>
Am 11.04.2016 um 07:34 schrieb Philippe Baudrion:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:570BB613.8070502@unige.ch" type="cite"> Yes,
that's right, just tested with a dummy corpus and the output
looks the same.<br>
I guess I will give the ParaSol project a try too.<br>
Thank you for all your great help, best. Philippe <br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/11/2016 04:18 PM, Hardie,
Andrew wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hannah
is correct on both counts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
“free translation” is primarily designed to support the
third line of interlinear-annotated linguistic data (As
per <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.eva.mpg.de/lingua/resources/glossing-rules.php">http://www.eva.mpg.de/lingua/resources/glossing-rules.php</a>
)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It
doesn’t actually use any of CWB/CQP’s inbuilt support
for aligned parallel corpora.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">But
it does allow you to get a translation to display in a
rough-and-ready kind of way.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This
same trick is used by the team at BFSU (some of whom are
on this list!) for their installation at <a
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://111.200.194.212/cqp/"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://111.200.194.212/cqp/">http://111.200.194.212/cqp/</a></a>
if I recall correctly. Here’s the earlier thread: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://devel.sslmit.unibo.it/pipermail/cwb/2014-February/001563.html"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://devel.sslmit.unibo.it/pipermail/cwb/2014-February/001563.html">http://devel.sslmit.unibo.it/pipermail/cwb/2014-February/001563.html</a></a>
<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">best<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Andrew.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it">cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it">mailto:cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Hannah Kermes<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 April 2016 14:39<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:Philippe.Baudrion@unige.ch">Philippe.Baudrion@unige.ch</a>;
Open source development of the Corpus WorkBench<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWB] Parallel corpora in CQPweb<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">in
principal yes, but with the "Free translation" you can
show only one XML-attribute (at least as far as I know) at
a time and (also as far as I know) only the Administrator
can turn the visualization of and on. <br>
<br>
Best<br>
Hannah<br>
<br>
ps: @Andrew: As Stefan told me the other day it might
helps to say something often enough: it would be nice if
users could turn such a free translation on an off<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 11.04.2016 um 15:30 schrieb
Philippe Baudrion:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">and it
would also be possible to add a second attribute to
store the italian version <span class="moz-smiley-s1">
:-) </span>for example?<br>
Thank you, Philippe<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 04/11/2016 03:25 PM, Hannah
Kermes wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Another
possibility - also proposed on the list a while ago, I
forgot who (sorry), but I am still grateful for that
info - is to annotate the aligned sentence or chunk as
an XML-attribute.<br>
An example from the GeCCO Corpus (English-German):<br>
<sentence aligned "Die Nationale Energiepolitik von
Präsident Bush"><br>
President <br>
Bush <br>
' s <br>
National <br>
Energy <br>
Policy<br>
</sentence> <br>
You can then display the xml attribute in CQPweb - You
just have to select the respective XML-attribute under
"Manage visualisation-(2)Free translation" with
"Concordance only":<br>
<img id="_x0000_i1025"
src="cid:part9.01070500.02020206@unige.ch"
height="366" width="1200" border="0"><br>
<br>
Best<br>
Hannah<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 11.04.2016 um 15:02 schrieb
Andres Chandia:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>Sorry form my intromission, I reproduce here an old mail that may help you Philippe:<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Dear List,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>I am happy to say we have finally succeeded in publishing the<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>parallel <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>corpus interface to CWB we have used in ParaSol <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>(<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://parasol.unibe.ch">http://parasol.unibe.ch</a>)<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>as an open source project here: <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://bitbucket.org/rvwfels/paravoz">https://bitbucket.org/rvwfels/paravoz</a> .<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>The<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>package ParaVoz provides a simple, yet effective interface for a <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>parallel corpus using<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>OpenCWB (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://cwb.sourceforge.net">http://cwb.sourceforge.net</a>). It should <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>work on any linux machine with only<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>minimal changes in the INI files to <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>reflect paths, and possibly adjustments concerning<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>language codes.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>See the movie on the ParaSol website for ParaVoz in motion <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://parasol.unibe.ch/ParaSol_demo.mp4">http://parasol.unibe.ch/ParaSol_demo.mp4</a> and the bitbucket site for more <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>information<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>on installation.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Best,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Ruprecht<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>NB: We have christened the<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>corpus ParaVoz, which means Locomotive in <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>many Slavic languages; at the same time the<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>root -voz means 'bring' in <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Slavic.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>No. CQPweb has no support for<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>parallel corpora. It's on the TODO list... Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://mail.chandia.net/src/compose.php?send_to=cwb-bounces%40sslmit.unibo.it">cwb-bounces@sslmit.unibo.it</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>On Behalf Of Philippe Baudrion Sent: 11 April 2016 13:58 To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://mail.chandia.net/src/compose.php?send_to=cwb%40sslmit.unibo.it">cwb@sslmit.unibo.it</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Subject: [CWB] Parallel corpora in CQPweb Dear all, following the last post [CWB]<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>sentence-Aligned parallel corpus in CWB by José Manuel Martínez Martínez<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>chozelinek on Fri Feb 19 18:17:56 CET 2016 we have tried to use the script using<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>"cwb-align-import". Now, is there a way to install the corpus and registry files to<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>make them available in CQPweb? Thank you for your help, Philippe -- Baudrion Philippe<o:p></o:p></pre>
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